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Exam NSE4_FGT-6.4 topic 1 question 10 discussion

Actual exam question from Fortinet's NSE4_FGT-6.4
Question #: 10
Topic #: 1
[All NSE4_FGT-6.4 Questions]

What is the effect of enabling auto-negotiate on the phase 2 configuration of an IPsec tunnel?

  • A. FortiGate automatically negotiates different local and remote addresses with the remote peer.
  • B. FortiGate automatically negotiates a new security association after the existing security association expires.
  • C. FortiGate automatically negotiates different encryption and authentication algorithms with the remote peer.
  • D. FortiGate automatically brings up the IPsec tunnel and keeps it up, regardless of activity on the IPsec tunnel.
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Suggested Answer: B 🗳️
Reference:
https://kb.fortinet.com/kb/documentLink.do?externalID=12069

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Lionardo
Highly Voted 3 years ago
D is correct. FortiGate_Infrastructure_6.4 page 231 "Another benefit of enabling Auto-negotiate is that the tunnel comes up and stays up automatically, even when there is no interesting traffic.
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RVE
2 years, 7 months ago
The right answer is D, this is why: Page 230 FortiGate Infrastructure 6.4 Study Guide Auto-negotiate. When you do this, Fortigate not only negotiates new SAs before the current SAs expire, but it also start using the new SAs right away. The latter prevents traffic disruption by IPsec SA renegotiation. On Answer B "FortiGate automatically negotiates a new security association after the existing security association expires." they claim that negotiation happens after SAs expires and not before as is written on FortiGate Infrastructure 6.4 Study Guide page 230. Also on the same page they say: Another benefit of enabling Auto-negotiate is that the tunnel comes up and stays up automatically, even when there is not interesting traffic. Which makes me think that the right answer is D.
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Thanos84
2 years, 6 months ago
https://kb.fortinet.com/kb/documentLink.do?externalID=12069 check this ;;its B
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nimvoltage
2 years, 6 months ago
D should be correct. https://docs.fortinet.com/document/fortigate/6.0.0/handbook/156465/configuring-phase-2-parameters They ask the effect, this ultimately takes the tunnel up.
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Seph1
2 years, 7 months ago
"Another benefit", not an "effect". Enabling Auto-negotiate will enable Auto-Keep Alive and as a benefit, the tunnel comes up and stays up. The effect is: SA negotiation when it expires. The answer is B.
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2021gene
2 years, 7 months ago
I think its D too, because Infra 6.4 p231 also states that the equipment negotiates new SA BEFORE the current SA expires.
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Shieshalom
2 years ago
The catch is "When the existing SA expires" The auto-negotiate negotiates for SA even before the existing SA expires. Fortigate Infrastructure page 231. The correct answer is D
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Cyril_the_Squirl
Highly Voted 3 years ago
B. Life-span of SA is often shorter than the data tranfer session, as a result multiple Phase2 SAs are negotiated. When there's zero data transfer, Phase 2 SA doesn't get negotiated and existing one expires, bringing the tunnel down. When data transfer resumes, first the peers negotiate a new SA. In short Phase 1 is to authenticate and protect Peering, Phase 2 is for data Transfer.
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redSTORM
Most Recent 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Selected Answer: B
• B. FortiGate automatically negotiates a new security association after the existing security association expires
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Garry_G
1 year ago
According to the referenced KB article, it would have to be B ...
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sintesinet
1 year, 7 months ago
Selected Answer: B
B is the correct answer. you are all confusing auto-keepalive with auto-negotiate
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atiles05
1 year, 7 months ago
B and D are both correct, Fortigate Infrastructure page 222 7.0
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Directly_Connected
1 year, 8 months ago
The Answer is B. The key point in the question is "auto-negotiate" Auto-negotiate: Enable the option to automatically renegotiate the tunnel when the tunnel expires. By default, the phase 2 security association (SA) is not negotiated until a peer attempts to send data. The triggering packet and some subsequent packets are dropped until the SA is established. Applications normally resend this data, so there is no loss, but there might be a noticeable delay in response to the user. https://community.fortinet.com/t5/FortiGate/Technical-Tip-Using-the-IPSec-auto-negotiate-and-keepalive/ta-p/189536?externalID=12069
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Abdulazizas96
1 year, 12 months ago
I think C is very generic, IPsec tunnel consist of 2 phases and 2 SA. Yes it brings the tunnel up but this is happening because it is auto negotiating the 2nd SA if there's no traffic passing through the tunnel and the 2nd is expired. So I stick with B.
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ibos8383
2 years ago
It is D
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SandroAlex
2 years ago
Selected Answer: D
Acredito que a questão está deixando margem a dúvidas e, neste sentido, a mais correta é a D. Na B tem documentação informando que é depois de expirado o SA, já outra cita que antes de expirar o SA faz a negociação. Na D, fiz um teste usando dois FortiGate-VM sem hosts atrás (ou seja, sem tráfego), interligado através de um router. Ao desconectar a interface do router, após aproximadamente 60 segundos o túnel cai. Conectando novamente a interface o túnel não sobe (lembrem que não tem hosts atrás dos FGT gerando tráfego). Ao habilitar Auto-negotiate, quando reconecto a interface do router o túnel sobe. Isso levar ao texto da letra D, por tanto neste cenário duvidoso me parece a mais certa.
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python_tamer
2 years, 1 month ago
Selected Answer: B
I believe the answer is B: https://docs.fortinet.com/document/fortigate/7.0.5/administration-guide/604285/phase-2-configuration#auto By default, the phase 2 security association (SA) is not negotiated until a peer attempts to send data. The triggering packet and some subsequent packets are dropped until the SA is established. Applications normally resend this data, so there is no loss, but there might be a noticeable delay in response to the user. If the tunnel goes down, the auto-negotiate feature (when enabled) attempts to re-establish the tunnel. Auto-negotiate initiates the phase 2 SA negotiation automatically, repeating every five seconds until the SA is established. Automatically establishing the SA can be important for a dialup peer. It ensures that the VPN tunnel is available for peers at the server end to initiate traffic to the dialup peer. Otherwise, the VPN tunnel does not exist until the dialup peer initiates traffic.
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lrosadini
2 years, 2 months ago
B - https://community.fortinet.com/t5/FortiGate/Technical-Tip-Using-the-IPSec-auto-negotiate-and-keepalive/ta-p/189536 If the tunnel goes down, the auto-negotiate feature (when enabled) attempts to re-establish the tunnel. Auto-negotiate initiates the phase 2 SA negotiation automatically, repeating every five seconds until the SA is established.
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blahblah1234567890000
2 years, 2 months ago
Selected Answer: D
Answer is D
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kkched
2 years, 3 months ago
Selected Answer: D
D correct
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acaselli
2 years, 4 months ago
Selected Answer: D
D is correct
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Rman0059
2 years, 4 months ago
Selected Answer: D
D is correct
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morningstar
2 years, 5 months ago
It is B. https://kb.fortinet.com/kb/documentLink.do?externalID=12069 Auto-negotiate. By default, the phase 2 security association (SA) is not negotiated until a peer attempts to send data. --> This means that when the IPSEC SA expires, the phase2 remains down "UNTIL" new interesting traffic triggers the negotiation for new IPSEC SA. But, if you enable "Auto-negotiate", as soon as the IPSEC SA expires, the "Auto-negotiate" feature will negotiate new one and start using it. So, this process will bring up the tunnel again, even if there is no interesting traffic.
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