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Question #: 161
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Your network contains an Active Directory domain named contoso.com. The domain contains a domain-based Distributed File System (DFS) namespace named
Namespace1 that has access-based enumeration enabled. Namespace1 has a folder named folder1. Folder1 has a target of \\Server1\Folder1.
The Permission for folder1 are configured as shown in the following table.

Access-based enumeration is disabled for the share of Folder1.
You need to ensure that both User1 and User2 can see Folder1 when they access \\Contoso.com\NameSpace1.
What should you do?

  • A. Enable access-based enumeration for Folder1.
  • B. Disable access-based enumeration for Namespace1.
  • C. Assign User1 the read NTFS permission to Folder1
  • D. Deny User1 the read DFS permission to Folder1.
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Suggested Answer: C 🗳️

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TMW
Highly Voted 5 years, 6 months ago
Access based enumeration is set at the namespace level, not the folder level. rules out ans A. your stated goal is to provide both users with access, so denying user1 DFS read permission will not work either. this rules out ans D. User2 already has NTFS full control, therefore Ans. C appears to me to be correct. Access based enumeration is different than "set explicit permissions" If you set explicit permissions, your choice is read, or deny. that is all. In my home lab, if you set explicit permissions to deny, it overrides NTFS permissions. even full control. Explicit permissions are not being used here. When using access based enumeration, you create folders within the DFS folder, and block folder inheritance. That way you can set your own permissions, allowing access based enumeration to work. if the user does not have NTFS permission, they cannot see the folder. if they do, they can see it. I hope this helps. I was baffled when I saw this, but it seems more clear now. The answer is C.
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Brinu
5 years, 3 months ago
Guys please make sure to use Practice Labs, as theory doesn't cover every day use. Since access based Enumeration is Enabled at name Space Level , only NTFS is left to consider Tick minimum as 'Read'; "Access-based enumeration does not prevent users from getting a referral to a folder target if they already know the DFS path. Only the share permissions or the NTFS file system permissions of the folder target (shared folder) itself can prevent users from accessing a folder target"
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minajahan
5 years, 3 months ago
And "if you set explicit permissions to deny, it overrides NTFS permissions. even full control" …. this is because "Deny" is always applied. But looks like a 70-740 exam question as it related with "Storage"…?
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minajahan
5 years, 3 months ago
And "if you set explicit permissions to deny, it overrides NTFS permissions. even full control" …. this is because "Deny" is always applied. But looks like a 70-740 exam question as it related with "Storage"…?
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coleman
Highly Voted 5 years ago
By default the DFS namespace system inherits permission from NTFS Permissions to determine if a user could see a published folder or not. As you can see User1 is lacking of NTFS Read permission, to counter this, grant User1 NTFS Read permission to let User1 to utilize DFS namespace to see Folder1, also the question had mentioned that Access-Based Enumeration is disabled, and this is good for the situation mentioned.
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lbs
4 years, 8 months ago
I agree. This is my understanding as well.
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jimehix971
3 years, 11 months ago
It does not work like that for this question. Accessing \\Contoso.com\NameSpace1 will show the links to the actual target folders. Those links are kept in the namespace root folder/share which usually defaults to C:\DFSroots\namespacename in the server where it was configured the namespace. Permissions over those links cannot be modified from fileexplorer nor Server Manager (maybe stopping DFS service?). Only when you configure explicitly DFS permisions on the folder from DFS manager you can control if those links appear or not to users. Not 100% I have done the lab right but that was my takeaway that is prety much the same explained by khalid86.
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drhousedk
Most Recent 3 years, 11 months ago
Spun up a test environment for this question alone. I can say without a single doubt in my mind, that B is the corrent answer. Remember to log off and back on when disabling Access Based Enumeration to see the results. With (DFS) ABE on: Only User1 can see the folder With (DFS) ABE off: Both users can see the folder Wouldn't make sense to add NTFS read permissions for User1 as User1 can already see the folder.
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GoldenFox
4 years ago
Answer on Exam will be C. But, there is a variant where C does not refer to NTFS permissions, in that variant the answer will be A.
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Sten111
4 years ago
On the exam the NTFS permissions for user 1 wasn't an option for me, it was changed to Share permission. I went for disable ABE for the namespace as it was the only one that would have worked.
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alexnt
4 years, 4 months ago
2 more variants: What should you do? A. Assign User2 the read DFS permission to Folder1. B. Assign User1 the read NTFS permission to Folder1 C. Run the Set-DfsnFolderTarget cmdlet. D. Assign User1 the read Share permission to Folder1 Offered Answer: B Explanation References: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/storage/dfs-namespaces/enable-access-basedenumeration-on-a What should you do? A. Disable access-based enumeration for Namespace1. B. Run the Set-DfsnFolder cmdlet. C. Run the Set-DfsFolderTarget cmdlet. D. Deny User1 the read DFS permission to Folder1. Offered Answer: A
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alexnt
4 years, 4 months ago
As for this specific question the offered answer from the same source is C. Assign User1 the read NTFS permission to folder1
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Siquito1
4 years, 5 months ago
I have seen the same question but with more option: A. Enable access-based enumeration for Folder1. B. Disable access-based enumeration for Namespace1. C. Assign User1 the read NTFS permission to Folder1. D. Deny User1 the read DFS permission to Folder1. E. Run the Set-DfsnFolder cmdlet. F. Run the Set-DfsnFolderTarget cmdlet. G. Assign User1 the read Share permission to Folder1. The answer offered is B Disable access-based enumeration for Namespace1.
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Kamikazekiller
4 years, 5 months ago
Answer is: C
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LeonSKanady
4 years, 5 months ago
Answer is: C " Access-based enumeration does not prevent users from getting a referral to a folder target if they already know the DFS path. Only the share permissions or the NTFS file system permissions of the folder target (shared folder) itself can prevent users from accessing a folder target. DFS folder permissions are used only for displaying or hiding DFS folders, not for controlling access, making Read access the only relevant permission at the DFS folder level. For more information " https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/storage/dfs-namespaces/enable-access-based-enumeration-on-a-namespace
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bigdraws
4 years, 7 months ago
with access base enumeration enabled, you have to have Read DFS permissions, only viable answer here is to disable access base enumeration
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bigdraws
4 years, 7 months ago
DFS folder permissions are used only for displaying or hiding DFS folders, not for controlling access, making Read access the only relevant permission at the DFS folder level. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/storage/dfs-namespaces/enable-access-based-enumeration-on-a-namespace
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khalid86
4 years, 7 months ago
The question says that: You need to ensure that both User1 and User2 can see Folder1 when they access \\Contoso.com\NameSpace1 I have tested in my home lab. The answer is B. In this scenario, explicit permissions for DFS folder is set. When you use explicit permission on DFS folder then you need to put every user/group in the list to whom you want to see the folder. In this scenario, he put user1 in DFS folder explicit permission list but did not put user2 in the list, which results that user2 cannot see the folder when he opens \\Contoso.com\Namespace1. Now come to user1 access: User1 getting read permission of DFS folder so he can see the DFS folder when he opens \\Contoso.com\Namespace1 but he does not have any NTFS permission of \\Server1\Folder1 (Target of \\Contoso.com\Namespace1\Folder1), it means that he cannot access the \\Server1\Folder1. When he will open \\Contoso.com\Namespace1 he will see folder1, but if he want to access folder1 the access will be denied. Confirmed in my home lab.
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ve22
4 years, 7 months ago
Great effort Khalid, thank you! Are you sure this is the answer that Microsoft expects on this exam?
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khalid86
4 years, 7 months ago
Yes. Microsoft want to make us understand the difference b/w DFS access-based enumeration and Folder access-based enumeration.
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ve22
4 years, 7 months ago
Thanks!
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Deans1996
4 years, 8 months ago
The correct answer is B - If you went with c, then browsing to the name space wouldnt allow you to SEE folder 1 as access-based enumeration is enabled on the namespace, and user 2 DFS permissions is set to none. If you disabled access-based enumeration then browsing to the namespace will allow you to SEE folder1, regarding of whether you can access it or not. - DFS folder permissions are used only for displaying or hiding DFS folders, not for controlling access
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Ario
4 years, 9 months ago
B is correct
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ve22
4 years, 9 months ago
Anyone else tested it?!
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SmartDavid
4 years, 10 months ago
Answer is B, just testing in my Lab. The main thing to realize here is the difference, how you access the folder. \\Server1\Folder1 is something completely different than \\contoso\namespace1.
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JustM0
3 years, 11 months ago
You are correct. I have this in production, not a test. ABE on DFS will determine if the user/group can see the folder. This is configured within the DFS snap-in. ABE on the folder is another issue altogether but doesn't matter since it is not enabled. Answer is B.
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Ben22
4 years, 11 months ago
Answer is C. By default the DFS namespace system inherits permission from NTFS Permissions to determine if a user could see a published folder or not. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/storage/dfs-namespaces/using-inherited-permissions-with-access-based-enumeration
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coleman
5 years ago
C. Assign User1 the read NTFS permission to Folder1.
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JustM0
3 years, 11 months ago
Sorry, this is incorrect. Must be B. User 2 has NONE for DFS permissions and ABE is enabled so he/she will not see the folder. ABE is not enabled on the share so it is irrelevant. I have DFS deployed in more than one production environment and I use ABE. Tested/Known.
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