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Actual exam question from Microsoft's MD-101
Question #: 29
Topic #: 2
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You have two computers that run Windows 10. The computers are enrolled in Microsoft Intune as shown in the following table.

Windows 10 update rings are defined in Intune as shown in the following table.

You assign the update rings as shown in the following table.

What is the effect of the configurations on Computer1 and Computer2? To answer, select the appropriate options in the answer area.
NOTE: Each correct selection is worth one point.
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Box 1: 3 days -

Box 2: No effect -
Since Computer2 is a member of a group that is excluded in both assignments, neither are applied to Computer2. So 'No effect' for Computer2.
Reference:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/mem/intune/configuration/device-profile-assign#exclude-groups-from-a-profile-assignment

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LauLauLauw
Highly Voted 5 years, 3 months ago
Comp 1 - 3 Days Comp 2 - No Effect Policy Applies if you are in Group 1 excluding for members that are in Group 2 And the same for the other ring with Group 2 and Group 1. So both rings will not apply on Comp 2. Another way to set this up is to Include All devices and Exclude Group X, same result but maybe gives a better overview on how the include and exclude works.
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mikl
3 years, 6 months ago
Thanks for clarifying!
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RodrigoT
3 years, 1 month ago
And the justification for the answer provided is absurd. They're saying that Computer2 is a member of Group1, then Ring1 is applied to Group1. Well Computer2 is ALSO a member of Group2. So, why he's not ALSO on Ring2? I tested this in my tenant. And on the Assignments part there is a link about excluding groups from a profile assignment, and there is nothing there talking about "misleading exclude groups". They're just saying to not mix users and devices groups. The links provided on the answer doesn't help too. So, I agree with you guys.
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nolancl
Highly Voted 5 years, 9 months ago
Computer 2 is No Effect. Both policies exclude the other group and Computer 2 belongs to both so it is excluded by both policies.
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Parzival
5 years, 7 months ago
True, Even through the basic group permissions.
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steven1
5 years, 4 months ago
That's not how policies work, one always take precedence over the other.
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DJM
4 years, 7 months ago
I tested this myself in a lab, this is the correct answer.
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Johan99
4 years, 7 months ago
So the the given answer is correct?
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DJM
4 years, 7 months ago
No, I meant nolancl's comment is correct, the answer is: Computer 1: 3 Days Computer 2: No Effect
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Amir1909
Most Recent 1 year, 6 months ago
Correct
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jt2214
2 years, 4 months ago
this was a good one.
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Altheus
2 years, 9 months ago
3 Days and no effect. Exclude always beats include.
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moobdoob
3 years, 5 months ago
Comp 1 - 3 Days Comp 2 - No Effect
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handsofthelp
3 years, 7 months ago
I Think it is correct. 3 days in both. Computer 1 is 3 days - Group 1 - Ring 1. Computer 2 is group 1 and group 2. Ring 2 no have effect but Ring 1 (group 1), yes.
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RodrigoT
3 years, 1 month ago
Following your logic then Computer2 is ALSO a member of Group2. So, why he's not ALSO on Ring2? If Ring1 excludes Group2 so Ring2 excludes Group1.
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tf444
3 years, 8 months ago
1-Computer 2 is in Group1 and Group2. 2-Ring 2 applies in Group2(include) and Group1(exclude). 3-Exclusion overrides inclusion. 4 Group1 /3 days deferral.
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RodrigoT
3 years, 1 month ago
But Ring1 applies in Group1(include) and Group2(exclude). So, if exclusion overrides inclusion then Computer2 is not in any ring.
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Ouianonymous
4 years, 1 month ago
I had this question recently on my exam and the right answer is 3 days -- No effect. For reference, see link; https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/mem/intune/configuration/device-profile-assign#exclude-groups-from-a-profile-assignment "xclusion takes precedence over inclusion in the following same group type scenarios: Including user groups and excluding user groups Including device groups and excluding device group For example, you assign a device profile to the All corporate users user group, but exclude members in the Senior Management Staff user group. Since both groups are user groups, All corporate users except the Senior Management staff get the profile."
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RodrigoT
3 years, 1 month ago
I agree with you answer, but how do you know that this was right on you exam if they don't say if you answered correctly or not?
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MitchF
2 years, 11 months ago
1. Where did you find the info you reported in your reference? I don't see anything like it in your reference! Nothing at all! 2. Also, how do you know you got the correct answer on the exam when Microsoft doesn't report it? Your post does haven't have any facts to support your story.
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MitchF
2 years, 11 months ago
This is the proper reference you may be talking about: "Exclusion takes precedence over inclusion in the following same group type..." https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/mem/intune/apps/apps-inc-exl-assignments
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GohanF2
4 years, 1 month ago
Answer is : Computer 1 - 3 days and COmputer 2 no effecr. Exlcude for groups , apps and objects always takes precedence over include . because the computer belongs to 2 groups and each policy exclude one of them , then there is no effecrt for computer 2
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N0peasaurus
2 years, 12 months ago
This ^. I had to look over it several times, to get it and come to the same conclusion.
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Koenvld
4 years, 3 months ago
Has this question changed? Seems like it's 1 - No effect 2 - 10 days. Discussion talks about excluding group 2 twice, but I see group 1 being excluded twice
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CvdK
4 years, 7 months ago
3 days and No Effect. If you click on 'more information about group exclusion' when configuring Ring assignment in Intune, it takes you to https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/mem/intune/configuration/device-profile-assign#exclude-groups-from-a-profile-assignment There it states that exclusion takes precedence over inclusion. Since Computer2 is a member of a group that is excluded in both assignments, neither are applied to Computer2. So 'No effect' for Computer2.
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Nail
4 years, 8 months ago
3 days, no effect. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/mem/intune/apps/apps-inc-exl-assignments Exclude, in my experience, always takes precedence over include.
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JackofIT
4 years, 10 months ago
Computer1 and Computer2 are members of Group1. Ring1 is applied to Group1. The term "Exclude" is misleading. It means that the ring is not applied to that group, rather than that group being blocked.
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newark123
4 years, 10 months ago
I cant find anywhere in any documentation about conflict between include and exclude . It says here that being excluded will not block it but the sources it states don't have any info on that ? Very confused on this one . Anyone got a legit source for this ?
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Davood
4 years, 11 months ago
Intune will check Exclude first, then Include. So answer will be 3 and 10.
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DJM
4 years, 7 months ago
I tested it, it is 3 days / No Effect
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gigimail3332
5 years, 1 month ago
I also believe Computer 2 is No Effect. That is the purpose of the exclusion. Apply updates to a big group then if needed exclude smaller groups or computers from it so they are not affected.
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